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The Bible in the Stars - Signs of the times - Zodiac
Astronomy NOT Astrology We are investingating how God placed His plans in the Stars As Romans 1 20 says God made the invisible unseen
The Bible in the Stars - Signs of the times - Zodiac
Astronomy NOT Astrology. We are investingating how God placed His plans in the Stars. As Romans 1:20 says: God made the invisible (unseen things) visible from the creation of the world (in creation) so we can understand His power and God head from the created - visible things. We come to this study as believers in Jesus (Yeshua) to see the grace of God.
A lot of my sources says alot of things, I am trying to descern between fact and opinion.
1. In Gen 1:14 it states: And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let there be signs, and for seasons, and for days, and for years;
So could have have placed the constellations in such a place as to reveal His plans for us in the stars?
(Rev 12:1 KJV) And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman [Bethulah / Virgo] clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars [Constellation Ari’el]…
The Stars of Revelation 12:1 occurred on Yom Teruah / Day of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 3998, announcing the birth of the “King.”
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Bethulah / Virgo / The Virgin, clothed with the setting sun and the sliver of the new moon beneath her feet, while…
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HaTzaddik (Jupiter), the “Righteous One,” came into conjunction with…
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HaMelech, also called the “King,” in the…
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Constellation of Ari'el, the “Lion of Judah.”
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This one time event announced the birth of the “King,” the Messiah! This is the “sign in the heavens” mistakenly called the “Star of Bethlehem.”
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Michael Rood who propogate this teachings, also says a lot of things, some I struggle to find proof for, I am not saying they are not true - it's just where is the proof.:
- Michael Rood says: that all the old constellations in biblical times (in modern times newer onces where added) - the meaning of them are the same in all languages. So if someone refers to 'Virgo' in English (Virgo = Latin) means Virgin. It might be another word in Chinese but it also means Virgin. This is because God named the stars before the confusion of languages in Babel
This is partially true:
There is a surprising amount of cross-cultural similarity in the
interpretation of the constellations of the zodiac. Orion, for example,
was seen as a hunter or warrior by the Sumerians, Greeks, Hungarians,
and Chinese. However, that interpretation was not universal. The
Scandinavians saw Orion as "Frigg's Distaff," and the Indians saw it as a
deer.
God "determines the number of the stars and calls them each by name"
(Psalm 147:4). However, the Bible never says that God taught humanity
the stars' names or that He put hidden messages in the zodiac.
We know that the Hindu zodiac does correspond with the Hellenistic and Roman one.
Wikipedia says: Knowledge of the Babylonian zodiac is also reflected in the Hebrew Bible. E. W. Bullinger interpreted the creatures appearing in the books of Ezekiel and Revelation as the middle signs of the four quarters of the Zodiac,[14][15] with the Lion as Leo, the Bull is Taurus, the Man representing Aquarius and the Eagle representing Scorpio.[16] Some authors have linked the twelve tribes of Israel with the twelve signs. Martin and others have argued that the arrangement of the tribes around the Tabernacle (reported in the Book of Numbers) corresponded to the order of the Zodiac, with Judah, Reuben, Ephraim, and Dan representing the middle signs of Leo, Aquarius, Taurus, and Scorpio, respectively.[17][18] Such connections were taken up by Thomas Mann, who in his novel Joseph and His Brothers attributes characteristics of a sign of the zodiac to each tribe in his rendition of the Blessing of Jacob.
- That Daniel was made a eunuch. (The only proof I can find is)
(Dan 1:7 KJV) Unto whom the prince of the eunuchs gave names: for he gave unto Daniel the name of Belteshazzar; and to Hananiah, of Shadrach; and to Mishael, of Meshach; and to Azariah, of Abednego.
(Which is a vague reference.. to say the least.)
- Daniel was very wealthy as he served under Nebuchadnezzar, Belshazzar, Darius, and Cyrus: True!
- Given charge over the Chaldeans (Semitic wise men/astronomers) of whom many where Jews (proof???)
- Visited by the Angel of YHWH, Gabriel, and given many revelations concerning future events and of the coming of the Messiah (proof??)
- Daniel had no children and passed on his inheritance to Messiah who was to be born in Bethlehem - when the stars reveales it. (proof??)
- 500 years after Daniel the Magi, see the signs in the stars and bring the gifts to Yeshua, in Nazareth when he was 2 years old.
- Christ in His earthly ministry fullfilled 4 out of the 12 zodiak signs/story, when He returns He will fullfill the rest.
Here are some excepts from E.W Bullinger's Book:
BOOK ONE: THE REDEEMER
BOOK ONE : VIRGO The Prophecy of the Promised Seed of the Woman
| SIGN/DECAN | OTHER NAMES | SCRIPTURE VERSE |
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| VIRGO-The Virgin | H-virgin; A-branch/ear of corn | Isa 7:14-A virgin will conceive |
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| COMA-the desired | H-desired; P-woman feed baby boy | Hag 2:7-desired of all nations shall come |
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| CENTAURUS-the centaur | A,C-the despised; H-sin offering | Isa 53:3-despised/rejected of men |
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| BOOTES-the coming one | H-the coming; E-one who rules | Ps 96:13-he cometh to judge the earth; Enoch 7&8 |
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The Promised Seed of the woman, the Desired of all nations, a two-natured being, who will come to harvest.
BOOK ONE : LIBRA The Redeemer's Atoning Work
| SIGN/DECAN | OTHER NAMES | SCRIPTURE |
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| LIBRA-the scales | H-weighing;A-purchase; Co-propitiation | Isa 53:10-sin offering(balance our lacks) |
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| CRUX-the cross | H-cutting off; H-limit/finish | Dan 9:26- 62 weeks, messiah cut off |
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| LUPUS-the victim | H,A-to be slain | Isa 53:7-lamb to the slaughter; Ez18:4 blood remission |
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| CORONA-the crown | H-royal crown; A-,jewel | PS 110:1-thine enemies thy footstool |
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The price deficient balanced by the price which covers. The Cross endured by the Victicm slain, who receives the Crown.
BOOK ONE : SCORPIO The Redeemer's Conflict
| SIGN/DECAN | OTHER NAMES | SCRIPTURE |
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| SCORPIO-the scorpion | H-the conflict; A-wound him that cometh | Good vs Evil |
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| SERPENS-the serpent | H,A-the serpent held | Gen 3:15-bruise the head; Ps 91:13 tread on the adder |
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| OPHIUCHUS-serpent holder: | No other names found | Fighting with Satan |
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| HERCULES-the mighty one | E-who cometh; A-strong one | Rev 19:11-white horse; conqueror |
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The Scorpion seeking to wound, but itself trodden under foot. The Serpent and the Man struggling. The Mighty Man kneeling on one knee, humbled in the conflict, but holding aloft the tokens of victory, with his foot on the head of the Dragon.
BOOK ONE : SAGITTARIUS The Redeemer's Triumph
| SIGN/DECAN | OTHER NAMES | SCRIPTURE |
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| SAGITTARIUS-the archer | H,E,G,A-arrow; Co-beauty of coming forth | Ps 45:3-5-people fall under thee; Ps64: God shoots arrow |
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| LYRA-the harp | No other names found [symbolizes rejoicing] | Rev 19:7-be glad, give honor; 5:13 blessing & honor |
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| ARA-the burning pyre | A-finishing; G-cursing | Ps 21:9-fire shall devour them |
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| DRACO-the dragon | G-trodden on; Co-serpent accursed | Isa 27:1-slay the dragon; Ps91:13 tread on adder |
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The two-natured Conqueror going forth; Praise prepared for the Conqueror and the consuming fire prepared for His enemy the Ol serpent--the Devil.
BOOK TWO : THE REDEEMER'S PEOPLE
BOOK TWO : CAPARISONS Their Blessings Procured
| SIGN/DE CAN | OTHER NAMES | SCRIPTURE |
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| CAPRICORNUS-the sea goat | Replace of sacrifice; H,A-cut off | Isa 53:8-stricken for my people;Lev 9:15; 16:22 |
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| SAGITTA-the arrow | No other names found[has no human connection] | Isa 53:4-smitten of God(royal eagle fall) |
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| AQUILA-the eagle | No other names found | [royal symbol, falling in death] |
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| DELPHINUS-the dolphin | H-pouring out water; A-coming quickly | died but rose again(whole New Testament) |
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The goat of Atonement for the Redeemed slain by the arrow of God. the smitten One falling, and Rising again.
BOOK TWO : AQUARIUSTheir Blessings Ensured
| SIGN/frostbitten | OTHER NAMES | SCRIPTURE |
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| AQUARIUS-the water bearer | frostbitten of him coming down | Isa 33:-Lord is rivers/streams;Joel 2:pours out Spirit |
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| PISCUS AUSTRALIS-the Southern fish | A-mouth of the fish | blessing is bestowed on the redeemed |
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| PEGASUS-the winged horse | H-chief horse | speedy bestowment of living waters |
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| CYGNUS-the swan | Ethics from afar | Ps 36:8-9-fountain of life |
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The living waters of blessing poured forth for the Redeemed who Drink in the Blessing. Bringing speedily the Good News of the returning Redeemer.
BOOK TWO : PISCES Their Blessings in Abeyance
| SIGN/Blessings | OTHER NAMES | SCRIPTURE |
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| PISCES-the fishes | E-fishes of him that cometh | Blesings to Israel & Ethnos(Eph 3:6) |
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| THE BAND-the band | E-He cometh | Jer 31:11; Hos 11:4 [held in Satan's grip] |
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| ANDROMEDA-the chained WOMAN | H-the chained; E-set up as queen | Jer 14:17-daughter broken; Isa 52:2 bands of thy neck |
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| CEPHUS-the crowned king | H-the branch; E-one cometh to rule | Jer
31:1-I will be God to all the families of Israel |
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The Redeemed blessed though bound. (The two Houses of Israel and Judah) by a Band to their great enemy. The redeemed in bondage waiting for their Redeemer coming to rule.
BOOK TWO : ARIES Their Blessings Consummated and Enjoyed
| SIGN/Judas | OTHER NAMES | SCRIPTURE |
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| ARIES-the ram | Ak-sacrifice of righteousness | Lamb revives, full of life(New Testament) |
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| CASSIOPEIA-the enthroned woman | A-the freed; E-set up as queen | Isa 62:3-5-marriage of Christ; Isa 61:10, Isa 54:5-8 |
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| CETUS-the sea monster | E-subdued | Ps 74:12-14-break dragon's head; Isa 26:21; 27:1 |
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| PERSEUS-the breaker | E-who fights & subdues | Christ is the agency of deliverance(many refs) |
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The Lamb that was slain. The captive to be delivered and prepared for her for her Husband, who is bound to Cetus, the sea monster, who will be Broken by the Deliverer.
BOOK THREE : THE CONFLICT WITH SATAN
BOOK THREE : TAURUS Messiah, the Coming Judge of All the Earth
| SIGN/Fetus | OTHER NAMES | SCRIPTURE |
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| TAURUS-the bull | E-who saves/delivers; H-coming/ruling | Isa 34:2;26:21; Jud 14-rushing to judge; gore enemies |
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| ORION-the glorious one | Ak-light of heaven | Isa 60:1-3-glory of the Lord |
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| ERIDANUS-the river | H-riverofthejudge[eri=river;dan=judge] | Dan 7:9-fire/judge-->Ps 97;Ps 1; Isa 30;Isa 66; Nahum 1 |
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| AURIGA-the shepherd | H-shepherd; E-sceptre/power | Isa 49:10-11-gather the lambs; Fez 34:22 |
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Messiah coming to rule in the person of the redeemer. whose Wrath is breaking forth on His enemies, while He shepherd's his Redeemed in safety.
BOOK THREE : GEMINI Messiah's Reign as Prince of Peace
| SIGN/breaking | OTHER NAMES | SCRIPTURE |
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| GEMINI-the twins | breaking of him who cometh; H,A,G-the united | Jer33:14 Righteous (2 natured) branch to rule; Jer 23:5 |
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| LEPUS-the hare | E-confounded/failing | Isa 63:3-4-trample the enemy; Mal 4; Ps 60;12 |
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| Canis Major-the dog | E-the head; A-coming quickly | Isa 59:19-redeemer shall come to Zion; Isa 49:24 |
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| Canis Minor-the 2nd dog | E-conquering/victorious | Isa 59:19-redeemer shall come to Zion; Isa 49:24 |
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The twofold nature of the King who treads His enemy under foot. The coming glorious Prince of Prices, the exalted Redeemer.
BOOK THREE : CANCER Messiah's Redeemed Possessions
| SIGN/Redeemed | OTHER NAMES | SCRIPTURE |
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| CANCER-the crab | E-the cattle-folds; A-holds/binds; Ak-sieze seed | Enfolding of the redeemed |
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| Ursa Minor-the little bear | lesser sheepfold(ancient picture) | EZ 34:12-16 |
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| Ursa Major-the great bear | A-assembled together(great sheepfold) | EZ 34:12-16 |
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| ARGO-the ship | (many voyagers coming home) | Isa 35:10-ransomed of Lord to Zion; Isa 51; Jer 31; Isa 60 |
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The possessions held fast in the Lesser and greater Sheepfolds. The redeemed pilgrims safely journeying home.
BOOK THREE : LEO Messiah's consummated Triumph
| SIGN/Triumph | OTHER NAMES | SCRIPTURE |
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| LEO-the lion | S-rending lion; A-vehemently leaping as flame | Rev 5:5 Lion of tribe of Judah prevails |
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| HYDRA-the serpent | means he is abhorred no other names found | Rev 20:2- Satan chained |
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| CRATER-the cup | pouring out something no other names found | Ps 75:8-God's cup; Ps 11:6 fire/brimstone in the cup |
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| CORVUS-the raven | the enemy/breaking up[snake natural enemy]
| Rev 19:hybrids eat God's enemy's flesh |
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The Lion of the Tribe of Judah aroused for the rending of the Enemy, the old Serpent. the cup of Divine wrath poured out, while birds of prey devour him.
THE LUNAR ZODIAC
The Lunar Zodiac would seem from history to be more ancient than the Solar Zodiac. However, as we shall see, they undoubtedly have a common source. The Lunar Zodiac can be found in India, Arabia and China. Unlike China and Arabia, the Indian astronomy assigned figures to each of the
Mansions of the Moon. The Lunar Zodiac travels around the same ecliptic as the Solar, but is divided into twenty-eight parts. Each of these
Mansions has it's own particular name.
Joseph A. Seiss has written a very complete account of the Zodiacs, including related subjects, like primeval man. I urge you to get this book called, "The Gospel in the Stars." About the history of the Lunar Zodiac Seiss says, "Astronomers agree in regarding this LunarZodiac as containing the most ancient remains of the science of the stars. The Romans, Greeks, and Egyptians knew little or nothing about it, but it is a matter of record in China that it was known and understood in that country as early as the reign of Yao, about twenty-three hundred years before the Christian era, which was before the time of Abraham. In the Chinese astronomy it begins with Virgo, which would seem to indicate that the Chinese table came from the antediluvian times."
If it was meant that the stars should carry a prophetic record of the Gospel, then we would find it also in the arrangement and naming of the Lunar Mansions. And, of course, it is.
For ease of comparison, I'll table the Lunar Mansions as they occur in relation to the Solar Zodiac. And from E. Raymond Capt's excellent introductory study of this subject, I'll quote the summary for each of the four constellations that make up the twelve signs.
VIRGO:
Seed of the Woman, the Desire of nations, Man of double nature in humiliation, exalted Shepherd and Harvester.
| NAME | MEANING |
| Al Awa | the Desired |
| Simak al Azel | Branch of the Power of God |
| Caphir | the Atonement, the Propitiation by sacrifice |
LIBRA:
The Price to be paid, the Cross to be endured, the Victim slain, the Crown purchased.
| NAME | MEANING |
| Al Zubena | the redeeming, the regaining by purchase, the buying back |
| Al Iclil | the complete submission |
SCORPIO:
The Conflict, the Serpent's coils, the struggle with the Enemy, the toiling Vanquisher of evil.
| NAME | MEANING |
| Al Kalb | the cleaving or wounding |
| Al Shaula | the sting, the deadly wound |
SAGITTARIUS:
The double-natured One triumphing as a Warrior, he gladdens the Heavens, he builds the fires of punishment, he casts down the Dragon.
| NAME | MEANING |
| al Naim | the gracious, the delighted in |
| Al Beldah | hastily coming, as to judgement |
CAPRICORNUS:
Life out of Death, the Arrow of God, Pierced and falling, Springing up again in abundant life.
| NAME | MEANING |
| Al Dibah | the sacrifice slain |
AQUARIUS:
Life-waters from on high, Drinking the heavenly flood, Carrying and speeding the Good News, bearing aloft the Cross over all the earth.
| NAME | MEANING |
| Sa'ad al Bula | witness of the rising or drinking in |
| Sa'ad al Su'ud | witness of the swimming or outpouring |
| Al Achbiya | the fountain of pouring |
PISCES:
Multiplication of the Redeemer's People, upheld and governed by the Lamb, the intended Bride bound and exposed on earth, the Bridegroom exalted.
| NAME | MEANING |
| Al Pherg al Muchaddem | the progeny of the ancient times |
| Al Pherg al Mauchher | the progeny of latter times |
| Al Risha | the band, the joined together |
ARIES:
The Lamb found worthy, the Bride released and making ready, Satan bound, the Breaker triumphing.
| NAME | MEANING |
| Al Sheratan | the wounded, that was cut off |
| Al Botein | the treading under foot |
| Al Thuraiya | the enemy punished |
TAURUS:
The invincible Ruler come, the sublime Vanquisher, the River of Judgement, the all-ruling Shepherd.
| NAME | MEANING |
| Al Debaran | the Leader, the Governor, the Subduer |
| Al Heka | the driving away |
GEMINI:
The Marriage of the Lamb, the Enemy trodden down, the Prince coming in Glory, his princely following.
| NAME | MEANING |
| Al Henah | the wounded in the foot |
| Al Dirah | the ill-treated |
CANCER:
The Possession secured, Lesser fold - the Church of the first born, Greater fold - Israel, the Bride, safe folding into the kingdom.
| NAME | MEANING |
| Al Nethra | the treasure, the possession |
| Al Terpha | the healed, the delivered, the saved |
LEO:
The King aroused for the rending, the Serpent fleeing, the Bowl of Wrath upon him, his Carcass devoured.
| NAME | MEANING |
| Al Gieba | the exaltation, the Price |
| Al Zubra | the heaped-up, as sin and delayed punishment |
| Al Serpha | the burning, the funeral-pyre. |
Seiss finishes by saying, "The whole series of these names thus runs parallel with the signs of the Solar Zodiac, and ends up precisely in the same way, proving that they are of a piece with it."
A last reminder for those who may have lost track. The Chinese had these Mansions, with their names long before the other cultures of history. This Lunar Zodiac wasn't the product of some group of star gazers corrupting an existing Solar Zodiac.
Amazing, huh? But that's God. Go where you will. Study any Truth. There He is.
Last updated: 8th December 2014 by Gabriel Kolbe from sources
